Jemima W BAILEY (1803-1891)
Originally posted on: December 21, 2008, 10:37:08 AM
I have a photo of her headstone, but unable to locate her in our database. Can anyone help me associate her with a family? Thanks.
-charles
This reply was posted by Franklin Nielsen on: December 21, 2008, 08:06:45 PM
Charles, there is a Jemima Westlake who married a Charles Bailey in New FamilySearch with the matching birth (24 September 1803) and death (13 June 1891 Goshen, Utah, Utah) dates on the headstone. This Jemima has 8 Bailey children: John, George, Nancy, Martha, Rhoda, Rebecca, Susan and Charles Westlake born between 1822 to 1843.
This reply was posted by Ernie King on: December 23, 2008, 01:13:55 PM
Jemima Bailey is Jemima Westlake. She married Charles Bailey 1828 in Beaver, Beaver, Pennsylvania. Charles Bailey died in Nauvoo, Illinois and she remarried John Pea. She died in Goshen, Utah, Utah and is buried there in the Goshen City Cemetery. Her full name was Jemima Pettit Westlake. The Pettit was for her mother’s maiden name. Charles Bailey died in 1845. I don’t find a marriage date for her and John Pea. That’s all I find on her at the moment. I do have a family group sheet on her if you want her children’s names.
Where Are All These Web Sites the Church is Developing Headed?
Originally posted by Robert Givens on: September 02, 2008, 08:34:12 AM
FamilySearch is the Church’s main Family History Site and that will not change. All these other sites are temporary site locations for new applications which will be developed to be added to the FamilySearch site once they are ready for full release. Many of these sites are available in limited release or access is being allowed while the sites are being prepared to be added to FamilySearch.
new.FamilySeach: This is a temporary site location for two application, Family Tree and the online Temple Ready application. These programs are in limited release to some Temple Districts. Once these programs are completed they will be added to FamilySearch and the new.FamilySearch site will be discontinued.
FamilySearch Labs is a place where you can go to see new applications and new versions of existing applications which are being developed and will someday be added to FamilySearch. They let us use the programs while they are being developed and encourage us to provide feedback to help develop the applications to meet our needs.
The FamilyTree program that you see at FSLabs is the new version of newFamilySearch that is under development. FamilyTree is the upcoming view that users will get when they log into Me and My Ancestors.
The RecordSearch program you see at FSLabs has already been added to FamilySearch as Record Search Pilot. Record Search is the application which allows us to search the databases created in the FamilySearch Indexing program.
The FamilySearch Indexing program was developed at FSLabs and has now been added to FamilySearch. The FS Indexing program is a project to extract all the microfilms from the Family History Library and make them available online through the Record Search application.
The FamilySearch Research Wiki and the FamilySearch Research Forums will be added to FamilySearch once they are ready. They are being developed to provide research assistance in doing Family History.
FamilySearch Archives is a new application which has been added to FamilySearch. This is a project to digitize all the books at the Family History Library and family history books from other major libraries and make them available online at FamilySearch. It is being hosted for FamilySearch by BYU, you can access those books which have already been scanned and digitized from the search menu at FamilySearch.
If you want to find out more about the technology applications of the Church you can go to http://tech.lds.org/index.php.
(This was written by Gary Turner at the FHCNET mail group I belong to.)
What is New at newFamilySearch?
Originally posted by Robert Givens on: March 04, 2008, 12:27:00 AM
On March 3, 2008 the following changes were made (among others in an attempt to make nfs more functional for users):
1) Choose the Information to Display for an Individual
For deceased individuals, users can choose the name, gender, birth, christening, death, and burial information to display in the individual summary. Users, not the system, now choose the common view. These conditions apply:
Users decide which information is displayed.
Only the last change of data is preserved.
All users will see the same summary. The name in the summary will also be displayed in the pedigree.
Users can contact the last person to change summary information if that person gave contact information.
To change individual summary information:
Click the Me and My Ancestors tab.
In the Family Pedigree with Details view, go to the family tree, and click the individual you want to see.
In the Details page at the bottom of the screen, click Summary. This will show the current display.
To change displayed information, click the arrow to the right of it. Then from the information listed, click the information you want displayed. If the correct information is not listed, click the Add another . . . link at the bottom of the page to add the correct information and its source.
2) Choose Which Parents or Spouse to Keep on Display
Now when you choose which set of parents or which spouse you want displayed in your family tree, the system will keep that choice until you change it.
To choose which parents or spouse to display, follow these steps:
In the Family Pedigree with Details view, to see duplicate spouses, fathers, or mothers, click one of the following symbols:
See other parents symbol
See other spouses symbol
From the list of spouses or parents shown, click the one you want displayed.
Click the box marked with one of the following:
Always show the selected parents on my family tree.
Always show the selected spouse on my family tree.
Click the Continue button.
There are others – they are found on the home page of nfs under “What’s New”
Bob
Getting Started in newFamilySearch – The First Visit
Originally posted by Robert Givens on: February 25, 2008, 10:52:24 PM
Your first visit to newFamilySearch can be daunting to say the least. Those of you who are younger will probably pick it up quickly. Those of us who are a little more mature might need a few visits to get a hang of it.
On your first visit please do take advantage of the introduction program they offer you. The web site also has a good data base of help articles.
When you go to Me and My Ancestors you should expect to NOT find much ancestry connected to you, if anything. Living people – even your parents if living – don’t show up for privacy sake. Trust me – the Carters are all in there, you just need to connect them in.
Do not, do not, do not add in a GEDCOM of all your data. This will just cause more duplications to clean up. Once you can tap into the family already in the nfs database, it will all be connected.
Your first job would be to add the names of your parents – if living, don’t even bother with their birth date. The name is all you need. If your grandparents are deceased and were members or have had temple work done for them – try adding them from the data base rather than adding them in as new people. Once they are connected the rest of the family going back should be there. If not try finding the next generation back until you get the family to come up.
If this information isn’t clear just email me or add a comment here.
Bob Givens
newFamilySearch.org
Originally posted by Robert Givens on: February 15, 2008, 09:13:12 PM
The newFamilySearch website was mainly created to simplify temple submissions and to eliminate duplications in temple submissions. Essentially they took the IGI, Ancestral File, Pedigree Resource File, and all church membership records and combined them into one data base. The program did some combining but it will be up to us to bring all this duplicate data together so that each person who is in the data base has a single folder where everything about them is placed. (Like all the duplicates.)
There is a steep learning curve to learn it but it really is outstanding and getting better all the time. In fact a new upgrade with several good improvements is due out in by the end of the month.
Just to give you an idea of the problem of combining. When I first went on I checked on William Furlsbury Carter – my direct ancestor. In real life he was married 5 times and had 47 children. When I first started working on him – he was in the system some 40+ times, had 70 or so spouses, and children in the hundreds. Obviously a lot of combining was needed. We have him down to one person and after a month of working on it, I have his first wife’s family (Sarah York) cleaned up. I go through that one. I will let cousins clean up the other families.
I do a lot of research and have some PA German lines of my mother’s that no one is working on. Since this program has rolled out to our temple district (Fresno California) I have submitted about 100 families of data. It is so much easier than the TempleReady program.
Questions? I will be happy to accomodate you.
Bob
Hannah Cordelia MECHAM (1829-1847)
Originally posted by Layne R Carter on: December 17, 2007, 09:42:28 AM
Here is a Journal entry from Nancy Naomi Alexander Tracy
Source: Life History of Nancy Naomi Alexander Tracy, Written by Herself, (1865), typescript copy, Special collections, Harold B. Lee Library, BYU, Provo, Utah.
The great thing about this history is that it mentions William Carter (William Furlsbury Carter Sr.), His wife, Dominicus Carter and his wife.
“The second winter here, on the 25, of February, 1849, my seventh son was born. We called him Helon Henry, a name to be long remembered, but now he is dead and gone before me and has left a large family. In the fall before the birth of this child, there was a circumstance that cast gloom over our settlement. William Carter married a young and beautiful girl by the name of Meekham. One afternoon she went home one mile to see her mother. She did not return the next day, and so they went over to her mother’s where they discovered that she had net even been the day before. Therefore they instituted a search. There was a stream of water to cross on the way she should have gone. Above the bridge a short distance, they found her shawl and bonnet on the bank, and in the stream they found her dead body, drowned. No one ever knew why she committed this deed, fer she seemed all right when she left. My husband helped to take her body out of the water, and she was buried by the side of my boy.
Diminicus Carter also buried a wife there, and before we left this place there was quite a little burying ground.”
According to Naomi… Hannah Cordelia Mecham committed suicide. Does this mean that is what happened? No, but add this to the notes from Robert Givens. I would like to know why she wanted to raise her sister Caroline, and why her father refused and stated that she shouldn’t have married William?
It seems to me probable that if she was denied the opportunity to raise her young sister and add this to her father telling her that she should not have married William that this would have had upset her mental state.
Bob then states that she went back to patch things up, this is probably the same instance of when Nancy in her memoir states that “she went home one mile to see her mother.”
What needs to be added to the story is who instituted the search for her?
Who was in the search?
Who found her? Possibly the husband of Nancy “My husband helped to take her body out of the water”
How deep was the water?
How did William react to her death?
This would be an interesting thing to keep looking into for those who are doing research.
[Layne R Carter]
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Reply by Robert E Givens on: December 22, 2007, 11:29:03 PM
Layne – Here are my comments about Hannah in Red:
Here is a Journal entry from Nancy Naomi Alexander Tracy
Source Life History of Nancy Naomi Alexander Tracy, Written by Herself, (1865), typescript copy, Special collections, Harold B. Lee Library, BYU, Provo, Utah.
“William Carter married a young and beautiful girl by the name of Meekham of course Mecham. One afternoon she went home one mile to see her motherFrom the maps I saw last summer – more like 4 miles and her mother was dead so it was to her father’s house. She actually went to the house with her step-son – William Aaron Carter (oldest child of William F by Sarah York) She and her father had words and on the way home she asked William to return home and she would go back to her father and try to make things right.. She did not return the next day, and so they went over to her mother’s where they discovered that she had net even been the day before Correctly – had not returned to her Father’s – as her father always contended. Therefore they instituted a search. There was a stream of water to cross on the way she should have gone. Above the bridge a short distance, they found her shawl and bonnet on the bank, and in the stream they found her dead body, drowned. No one ever knew why she committed this deed, fer she seemed all right when she left. My husband helped to take her body out of the water, and she was buried by the side of my boy. There is a record that there was a cemetery in Carterville but I have yet to find a record of who is buried there.
According to Naomi… Hannah Cordelia Mecham committed suicide. Does this mean that is what happened? No, but add this to the notes from Robert Givens. I would like to know why she wanted to raise her sister Caroline, and why her father refused and stated that she shouldn’t have married William? The following is my conjecture – Hannah had a difficult life – her mother had died and when her father remarried the new wife (I think) lived only for her blood children. Hannah’s mother had given birth to a large family, several died young and all but one ended leaving the church. Hannah probably felt she was the mother of her little sister – and the step-mom probably did pay little attention the child. Her father gave permission for her to marry William F and on this day complained to her that he shouldn’t have given her permission to marry. He probably needed her back to help raise her siblings but he wasn’t about to give one to her to raise. Plus, remember she had only been married for a couple of months and William had just married yet another young woman (also 18 years old.) That could be a real threat to her relationship with William or possibly she simply wasn’t happy with polygamy. We just never will know.
It seems to me probable that if she was denied the opportunity to raise her young sister and add this to her father telling her that she should not have married William that this would have had upset her mental state. I just hate to accuse her of killing herself, but that does make the most sense based on the evidence. The only other possibilities would be 1) She somehow fell into the creek – slipped? but why? or 2) some one attacked her and dumped her body into the creek. If it had been an Indian they probably would have taken her hostage. Of course there is one other remote possiblity – 3) her father did her in.
Bob then states that she went back to patch things up, this is probably the same instance of when Nancy in her memoir states that “she went home one mile to see her mother.”
What needs to be added to the story is who instituted the search for her? I think the Carters as my story states that when they went to the father he denied she ever came back.
Who was in the search? We probably never will know.
Who found her? Possibly the husband of Nancy “My husband helped to take her body out of the water” Sounds likely to me.
How deep was the water? Miller’s Hollow – where this happened is a major land form there but I don’t know how deep the water was. From the size of the canyon the creek has carved it was probably was sizeable.
How did William react to her death? Good question – he had no journal at that time.
Was there an inquest? That is a record I would sure like to know.
Was she really sealed to William F or just married for “time” at that time? I can find no record of this marriage in the early sealing records. Maybe the record of it doesn’t exist.
This would be an interesting thing to keep looking into for those who are doing research. I agree, nothing like a mystery.